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post Apr 16 2009, 12:31 PM
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CRASH IN FRONT OF SIM LIM SQUARE

I was waiting to cross Rochor Rd when An Indian Man wobble across the road crossing fronting OG.
The light was still green for the traffic.
So... he shouldn't cross... but he did.

Down comes a small bike.. not going fast..
On the Lane nearest the side of road.

Saw him late.. unable to stop crash into the pedestrain.

Motorcyclist flip over bike and landed in front.
Pedestrian, apparently injured only his hand.. staggered across
the junction in full flow of traffic into Sim Lim Sq.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/2100spectrum/Street%20Smart/Sim%20Lim%20Crash/C3.jpg)

Motorcyclist unable to move as it causes intense pain whenever he try to turn over.
Doesn't seems like a serious crash..
But he must had landed hard.
Fortunately... there weren't a vehicle behind that could cause him more damage.

Ambulance in came 20mins.
Took him off in a stretcher.

Traffic police: 1hr
Says usually they would penalize the motorist even if they have the right of way.
But with our statement... the pedestrian was clearly in the wrong.
(he definately is not coherrent - maybe drunk)

Could had gone after the pedestrian... but thought accident not that serious..
Better go help the biker.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/2100spectrum/Street%20Smart/Sim%20Lim%20Crash/C5.jpg)

Case Study:

If a pedestrian just step into your lane..
We are doom to crash into him...
Or is there a way to prevent the crash..

Think about it..

What can we do as Motorist/Bikers to prevent this crash from happening.
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post Apr 16 2009, 01:18 PM
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I will prepare for hard crashing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-sweat.gif) , hopefully that guy survives.
Similar to a case on PIE when a pedestrian illegally crosses and causes serious accident.
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post Apr 16 2009, 02:03 PM
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It did happen to me. I crash into a cyclist who dash out from in-between 2 cars from the oppsite traffic (those industrial park area). My side traffic was smooth, his side jam, and he just thought dashing out would be safe.

Can't see him, can't siam him. That's why cycling across pedestrian traffic light is also illegal.

Only lucky thing is - I am more seriously injured than him, haha...
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post Apr 16 2009, 03:54 PM
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post Apr 16 2009, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(mordecai1968 @ Apr 16 2009, 03:54 PM) *

Trying to be cute is it.....
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post Apr 17 2009, 12:47 AM
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Lol... with all that armour.. u be trap in it..
And be waiting for civil defence to cut u free.. ha ha..
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post Apr 17 2009, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(spectrum @ Apr 17 2009, 12:47 AM) *

Lol... with all that armour.. u be trap in it..
And be waiting for civil defence to cut u free.. ha ha..
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but first for the jayed walker he be http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/01/...920_468x340.jpg
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post Apr 17 2009, 07:44 AM
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Wah.. U worst than TP...
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post Apr 17 2009, 12:28 PM
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What will I do if I witness this scene?

I will quickly go after that Indian man who caused the motorcyclist to skid.



And ask him what did he just ate/drank.

Hey, this guy just got hit by a motorcycle, got up, and walked away with hardly any injury. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/035.gif)
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post Apr 18 2009, 02:16 PM
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Yeah i agree with Ah seng,

I will go after the irresponsible source of the trouble as its quite unfair to let the victim suffer for nothing.

Of course, by doing that there is a risk of getting hurt by the source as well, but to assist in justice being done, i guess its worth to a certain extend.
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post Apr 21 2009, 12:16 PM
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I think.... i will smack that pendestrian. haha... Or maybe he's paying road tax more then us or he thought he still in India..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/arrowhead.png) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:09 PM
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We should organise an outing to do lap time @ serangoon on a sunday evening.
We shall name the outing "Fast & very furious Sg (Serangoon)" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
See who can complete 24 laps around Mustafa in the shortest time. I volunteer to be the grid or greed girl... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/048.gif)
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post Apr 23 2009, 01:08 AM
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Happened to me once..was riding along the straight road along Tamp. ave 10 when a China man
suddenly came out trying to cross(not @ pedestrian traffic light).Horn him to warn and instead of
trying to run/cross over quickly, he stopped, faced me and moving left n right(playing American Gladiators
with me) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigeyed.png) ..what e heck.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/axehead.png) Luckily managed to stop n siam him in time..
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post Apr 24 2009, 12:50 AM
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Should the authority determine the cause of the accidents first before they take adverse action against the rider? Which in this case, the pedestrian was in the wrong based on eye witneses reports. Apart from the eye witneses, where is the next best souce of evidence that the authorities would be able to determine?

Have you ever question about the LTA cameras which are used to monitor the roads? Are the authorities proactively putting those cameras into good used to monitor and predict such recklessness at cross junctions where perdestrains have a higher tendency to be the cause of the accidents rather than the motorist themselves. Being a driver, we are aware of the heavy penaty imposed for any accidents caused. Unfortunately, for the perdestrains whom are ignorant to the traffic conditions always get away easily.

In the above accident, would the authority be able to proof innocents to the rider who have fallen and suffered worst injuries then the pedestrain who has caused the outrage.

Should the traffic police or the pedestrain police keep a closer look out for those uneducated pedestrains who recklessly cross roads by using the camera technologies installed at the junctions? Can those powerful camera perform as a third eye to the authorities to prevent future accidents from happening due to such reckless acts from pedestrains?

Apart from pedestrains,

There was one incident which i contacted the traffic police to highlight a case pertaining to one reckless driver, being unreasonally trying to force another car to the side of the road after exiting KPE right infront of me. The bully driver was trying to speed and over take the car infront of him. Just because the bully was unsuccessful on his attempt to over take the car infront of him, he took laws into his own hands to conduct the latter reckless action.

In this case, should this bully driver be penalised for their reckless thoughts and actions which poses dangers to other innocent drivers?

When i contacted the TP hotline, the voice from the cadet whom answered the phone doesn't seemed to have keen interest in the case. Reason being that i was not able to provide the car license plates numbers of the cars involved. So, I advice the cadet to check with LTA on this matter cause the roads are well equipped with powerful cameras.

Now, the question is; does the Traffice Police communicates closely with LTA team to determine such threats?

A large amount of monies have been invested into installation of a massive amount of carmeras on the highway and cross roads; but are these cameras really put to high-level of usage to detect bullies, dangers and threats. Would a safer homeland security to Singapore be compromised due to such ignorance in ulitilising the high tech facilities which are readily available in providing the powerful third eye.

How much time do we need to wait for those agencies to understand the importance to proactively use those powerful technologies for a much better purpose to detect theats. Rather then being treated as white elephants or just for accident reporting purposes.

I advocate a serious food for thought pertaining to our own innocence, safety and exposure to threats.
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post Apr 24 2009, 07:53 AM
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The Police cameras are for traffic monitoring..
So.. able to see traffic.. but not car reg. no.
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And with traffic junction cameras.. so run out of memory...
as with Au case at Paya lebar.

But on the PIE some time ago...
A car did pull out into my lane even though I horn and was too fast to give way.
That cased me to brake hard..
A Petrol car behind me saw all.. and
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And pull ahead to flag the car down.. for dangerous driving..
Yeah!
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post Apr 27 2009, 08:08 PM
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Interestingly,

Shortly after the accident...
A man who was fishing at the canal..
Appeared with some Traffic Cones to direct traffic away from the lane where the man laid.
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That really helped as his legs were quite near the next lane and he can't move.
That's him at a distance Blue T shirt & Shorts..

Then a little while later...
A man who was in a car waiting for the lites to go red came
out and had a look at the injured motorcyclist..
Says he a doctor..
And...
The guy is Ok.. Minor Injury..
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-thumbsup.gif)
Wah! All so Helpful one...

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/2100spectrum/Street%20Smart/Sim%20Lim%20Crash/C3.jpg)

The guy in orange... He's a reservist police.. And insist we be around till the TP comes.
And that's Khai with the Cap..
He called the police and was the 1st to help the down Motorcyclist.

But my initial question was...
HOW? can we avoid this collision..
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We had all gone catching the thief...
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post Apr 28 2009, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(spectrum @ Apr 27 2009, 08:08 PM) *



But my initial question was...
HOW? can we avoid this collision..
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We had all gone catching the thief...


Anticipate whatever that could jump, swerve, drive, run, hop, fly, crawl or swim into your path of travel, moderate speed so to brake in time just in case to avoid obstacle(anticipate)

OR get in a position that any running man or limping dogs won't have enough time to get in your way first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/guitar.gif)
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post May 3 2009, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(spectrum @ Apr 27 2009, 08:08 PM) *

But my initial question was...
HOW? can we avoid this collision..
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We had all gone catching the thief...


I would apt to suggest diligent practicing of Hazard Oriented Vision (HOV) could have help avoided the problem.

If you practice HOV, you would constantly sweep your vision to cover not just your current lane, but the adjacent lanes as well. So you can detect sideway hazards of threats that originate out of your otherwise straight field of vision. And jaywalkers as this plus other hazards could be detected early and buying you precious reaction time.

More at:
http://loudexhaust.blogspot.com/2007/01/ha...n-hov-life.html


Alternate to HOV, for this particular situation, if the rider had this, he wouldn't be on the floor:

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